It can also be enabled in Firefox Beta with "browser.tabs.groups.enabled" but it's still a bit buggy there. Ironically, Firefox was the first browser to have tab groups with Firefox 4 until they removed it because "nobody used it".
Paianni 27 days ago [-]
Opera 11 (Dec 2010) had 'tab stacking'.
sunaookami 26 days ago [-]
Didn't knew that, interesting! Really miss the old Opera.
26 days ago [-]
hcs 26 days ago [-]
It's still a bit buggy in Nightly, it seems, over the last few days I keep triggering it on accident.
ksec 26 days ago [-]
>with Firefox 4 until they removed it because "nobody used it".
Tab Groups remains a good idea on paper but no one has done a useful implementation of it. I remember during the Firefox 4 Tab Group era I purposed that Tabs from site ( Say HN ) and any Tabs opened from that site, for example I have another tab from this submitted links bugzilla.mozilla.org. All To be moved together into a tab group instead of just moving site to a tab group.
It was rejected for whatever reason.
Cpoll 26 days ago [-]
This sounds a bit like an extension that nests tabs in a tree structure (I can't remember the name).
Both TST and Sidebery are leagues ahead of tab groups IMHO. Frankly sidebar tabs just work better for 16:9 aspect ratio because with a maximized window most sites don't make good use of 1/4 of the width anyway.
coffeeling 26 days ago [-]
Huh? I use tab groups heavily in Brave. They're very useful, even if they're not nestable.
CrimsonRain 26 days ago [-]
Try edge
hulitu 24 days ago [-]
> Try edge
oh no. For some reason, the Microsoft's abortion makes tab groups when i move tabs, with no option to disable it.
wlesieutre 27 days ago [-]
Exciting! Firefox used to support tab groups and removed them in 2016 because they weren’t used enough.
Now that Safari has them, I guess there’s pressure to have feature parity?
infensus 26 days ago [-]
They took the most upvoted ideas from the community forum and started implementing them. Maybe to win some users over, but I think it might be too late for this to have any impact on market share.
I'm also kinda disappointed they just copied the UI from Chrome instead of releasing a refreshed version of the previous implementation. Old Firefox tab groups were like Safari tab groups (or "workspaces" in Edge, Vivaldi, Zen and maybe others), and I think they are way better for organisation. Yeah, STG extension still exists, but having it built-in would be nice.
siva7 24 days ago [-]
The chrome implementation is way better than of Safari. I don't use the Safari tab groups because they lack features like pinned groups which i need to find it useful.
Tagbert 19 days ago [-]
The Chrome tab groups are less useful as they don't really present a single workspace with only the tabs from that group, they are just literally a grouping of tabs all within a single workspace.
I use tab groups to switch tabs based on projects and I want full separation of those tab groups. The Chrome and new Firefox groups don't do that.
AAAAaccountAAAA 27 days ago [-]
Hopefully they won't make it mandatorily enabled like on Android Chrome.
danpalmer 27 days ago [-]
What does it mean for tab groups to be enforced? Is it popping up messages to shame you into sorting your tabs better?
Assuming not, what’s the harm?
sunaookami 27 days ago [-]
Have you used Chrome for Android? It's absolutely awful and forced me to switch to another browser. All tabs are opened in a tab group, sometimes they will open a new tab group. Very confusing behaviour. The desktop implementation is good though.
kgeist 26 days ago [-]
>All tabs are opened in a tab group, sometimes they will open a new tab group. Very confusing behaviour.
So I'm not the only one. I never figured out why sometimes tabs open in an existing group, and sometimes in a new group. Curious to find the spec which explains the behavior...
Joker_vD 26 days ago [-]
Yeah, it completely ruins the ability to switch to another tab: instead of the tab-switching screen having 6 tab previews, there are now 6 tab group previews with a single tab in each, and those previews are tiny, they are a quarter of the tab preview size. And closing a tab group is, again, more difficult than closing a tab because it has a ... instead of x at the top right corner.
danpalmer 24 days ago [-]
I use Chrome on Android and have never noticed a tab group. Admittedly I don't use the browser extensively, but still. On iOS, which seems to be very similar, I've seen the "open in new tab group" button, but never used it.
KTibow 26 days ago [-]
When clicking or using "open in new tab" from the long press menu (not "open in new tab in group")?
coffeeling 26 days ago [-]
Brave has a setting to enable/disable the feature, idk if standard Chrome has it.
AbuAssar 26 days ago [-]
I use tab groups all the time in safari, and I used an extension to have them in firefox as well.
This feature is a must for me
DanitaBaires 24 days ago [-]
Oh god. I hope that doesn't break the plugin I use (can't remember because I'm away from the computer), the one I had to install when they phased out the "panorama" feature.
26 days ago [-]
maxvisser 25 days ago [-]
I rather have something like arc does where you can anchor tabs on the sidebar as bookmarks. It feels a lot less chaotic.
jay_kyburz 25 days ago [-]
Or, you know, just use bookmarks.
AzzyHN 25 days ago [-]
I could've sworn Firefox already had tab groups, though I may be thinking of container tabs...
e40 26 days ago [-]
How long does it take to get from nightly to release?
throwaway74354 26 days ago [-]
Firefox 135 is expected to be released on February 4.
glandium 26 days ago [-]
This specific change will not automatically make progress from nightly to release. Specifically, this is enabling tab groups by default in nightly only, for however long it will take for the feature to be stabilized.
imcritic 27 days ago [-]
I want tab groups in Chromium :-(
coffeeling 26 days ago [-]
Chromium has had tab groups for ages, both on desktop and mobile.
johnea 26 days ago [-]
A word was left out of the title: Again... Firefox releases tab groups
Tabs (including all kinds of groupings and UIs) were the best when they were dealt with in NPAPI plugins.
Mozilla foundation has been screwing them up ever since.
Of course, always for the betterment of humanity, totally not just because goggle told them to...
wtallis 25 days ago [-]
Were there ever NPAPI plugins to manage tabs, or are you getting that confused with XUL extensions?
Tab Groups remains a good idea on paper but no one has done a useful implementation of it. I remember during the Firefox 4 Tab Group era I purposed that Tabs from site ( Say HN ) and any Tabs opened from that site, for example I have another tab from this submitted links bugzilla.mozilla.org. All To be moved together into a tab group instead of just moving site to a tab group.
It was rejected for whatever reason.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
oh no. For some reason, the Microsoft's abortion makes tab groups when i move tabs, with no option to disable it.
Now that Safari has them, I guess there’s pressure to have feature parity?
I'm also kinda disappointed they just copied the UI from Chrome instead of releasing a refreshed version of the previous implementation. Old Firefox tab groups were like Safari tab groups (or "workspaces" in Edge, Vivaldi, Zen and maybe others), and I think they are way better for organisation. Yeah, STG extension still exists, but having it built-in would be nice.
I use tab groups to switch tabs based on projects and I want full separation of those tab groups. The Chrome and new Firefox groups don't do that.
Assuming not, what’s the harm?
So I'm not the only one. I never figured out why sometimes tabs open in an existing group, and sometimes in a new group. Curious to find the spec which explains the behavior...
This feature is a must for me
Tabs (including all kinds of groupings and UIs) were the best when they were dealt with in NPAPI plugins.
Mozilla foundation has been screwing them up ever since.
Of course, always for the betterment of humanity, totally not just because goggle told them to...